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do you this fellow romney? have you met romney? george romney? >> only casually. >>> 50 years ago, another romney was on the mind of the top democrat in the white house, and the clip you heard president kennedy is trying to gauge the political viability of mitt romney's father george romney. the conversation with douglas mccar thur was picked up by hidden microphones kennedy ordered installed in 1962. it's not clear why kennedy wanted his meetings and phone conversations recorded but we're left with hundreds of hours of secret discussions that lifted the veil on how president kennedy handled the crucial moments of his presidency. they are the subject of the new book "listening in the secret white house records of john f. kennedy." ted compiled the selections in this and joins us now. great to have you on set. >> thank you. >> an audio book and fascinating one at that. first and foremost we were talking about this during the break why the microphones everywhere? >> other presidents had taped conversations but to a smaller degree. fdr, truman and e
do you this fellow romney? have you met romney? george romney? >> only casually. >>> 50 years ago, another romney was on the mind of the top democrat in the white house, and the clip you heard president kennedy is trying to gauge the political viability of mitt romney's father george romney. the conversation with douglas mccar thur was picked up by hidden microphones kennedy ordered installed in 1962. it's not clear why kennedy wanted his meetings and phone conversations recorded...
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going to see who is mitt romney. what kind of president he is going to be and what choices. that is what matters, i know what president obama has done, i know ail the empty promises and i know about the ugly stagnant economy. what is romney and paul ryan is offering. if we get that out of wednesday, the country will understand what the choices are. >> eric: good morning. 72 hours before the debate and mr. ryan laid it all out. >> chris: i suspect he didn't give all the secrets away but he says romney has to make eight choice. it would seem obvious but up until now the komz campaign has been talking about a referendum on obama, it's all about obama's record and they have to show that romney is a credible alternative. now, they are saying, no. it's a choice between obama's record and plan for the future which they say are stagnation for the economy and dependency by more and more people versus romney's plan for opportunity and growth. they clearly decided it has to be contrasting visions why obama is wrong and they cla
going to see who is mitt romney. what kind of president he is going to be and what choices. that is what matters, i know what president obama has done, i know ail the empty promises and i know about the ugly stagnant economy. what is romney and paul ryan is offering. if we get that out of wednesday, the country will understand what the choices are. >> eric: good morning. 72 hours before the debate and mr. ryan laid it all out. >> chris: i suspect he didn't give all the secrets away...
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mitt romney contradicted once again, mitt romney. and in the rewrite tonight, the things paul ryan can't say anymore thanks to mitt romney. for example, paul ryan never talks about the cayman islands anymore. and he used to talk about the cayman islands. and tomorrow is the last day that crazy congressman todd akin can drop out of the senate race whichever republican including mitt romney wants him to do. so why was newt gingrich at todd akin's side today urging him to stay in. newt can't stop making trouble for mitt. that's coming up. your soups are so awesomely delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, potato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. keys, keys, keys, keys, keys. ♪ well, he's not very handsome ♪ to look at [ sighs ] ♪ oh, he's shaggy ♪ and he eats like a hog [ male announcer ] the volkswagen jetta. available with advanced keyless technology. control everything from your pocket, purse
mitt romney contradicted once again, mitt romney. and in the rewrite tonight, the things paul ryan can't say anymore thanks to mitt romney. for example, paul ryan never talks about the cayman islands anymore. and he used to talk about the cayman islands. and tomorrow is the last day that crazy congressman todd akin can drop out of the senate race whichever republican including mitt romney wants him to do. so why was newt gingrich at todd akin's side today urging him to stay in. newt can't stop...
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mitt romney contradicted once again, mitt romney. and in the rewrite tonight, the things paul ryan can't say anymore thanks to mitt romney. for example, paul ryan never talks about the cayman islands anymore. and he used to talk about the cayman islands. and tomorrow is the last day that crazy congressman todd akin can drop out of the senate race whichever republican including mitt romney wants him to do. so why was newt gingrich at todd akin's side today urging him to stay in. newt can't stop making trouble for mitt. that's coming up. i'm so g lad you called. thank you. we're not in london, are we? no. why? apparently my debit card is. what? i know. don't worry, we have cancelled your old card. great. thank you. in addition to us monitoring your accounts for unusual activity, you could also set up free account alerts. okay. [ female announcer ] at wells fargo we're working around the clock to help protect your money and financial information. here's your temporary card. welcome back. how was london? [ female announcer ] wells fargo.
mitt romney contradicted once again, mitt romney. and in the rewrite tonight, the things paul ryan can't say anymore thanks to mitt romney. for example, paul ryan never talks about the cayman islands anymore. and he used to talk about the cayman islands. and tomorrow is the last day that crazy congressman todd akin can drop out of the senate race whichever republican including mitt romney wants him to do. so why was newt gingrich at todd akin's side today urging him to stay in. newt can't stop...
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the romney from massachusetts or the romney from bain or the romney from nordquist or the kneow cons? >> the interesting thing about the debate format is each candidate is going to be given a lot of time to answer some of these basic questions. that may not be good for romney. you get the sense, particularly on health care, while governor romney of 2003 could give a good ten-minute answer on health care and what he thought about it, what he wanted to do about it, what he had accomplished in massachusetts, how can mitt romney talk for five minutes on health care, even like 90 seconds without saying something that contradicts something he said the week before, the month before, that gets the base upset, that is confusing, that reporters can't quite understand? i don't know how he does it. he's tied himself into knots on this particular question. on the other side, i do know some obama aides who are a little worried that the president, who sometimes can be overly profess soral, may use the time not to his advantage either. they'd like to see more succinct answers. they each have the oppo
the romney from massachusetts or the romney from bain or the romney from nordquist or the kneow cons? >> the interesting thing about the debate format is each candidate is going to be given a lot of time to answer some of these basic questions. that may not be good for romney. you get the sense, particularly on health care, while governor romney of 2003 could give a good ten-minute answer on health care and what he thought about it, what he wanted to do about it, what he had accomplished...
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much he knows mitt romney. watch. >> he's very, very funny. >> funny? >> ann talked about it last night. i don't think the american people have seen that so far but he is a riot. >> he's a riot. he told me don't pay those refuse, keep all the money for yourself. that goes to the income and in quality is rifo throughout the country. they won't even share it with the game that they profit off of. robert reich said: >> that is exactly right. so let's bring robert in right now. he is a professor at berkeley and also now the author of beyond outrage what has gone wrong with our economy our democracy and how to fix it. great to have you here. you know, when you tell the mitt romneys of the world we have this great inequality, they say god bless america. >> we have not had this degree of income in equality in america for 80 years and by some measures, 100 years. go back to the gilded age of the robber borons where you find the same kind of concentration of income and wealth and power at the highest reaches of the unit
much he knows mitt romney. watch. >> he's very, very funny. >> funny? >> ann talked about it last night. i don't think the american people have seen that so far but he is a riot. >> he's a riot. he told me don't pay those refuse, keep all the money for yourself. that goes to the income and in quality is rifo throughout the country. they won't even share it with the game that they profit off of. robert reich said: >> that is exactly right. so let's bring robert in...
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romney, romney, romney, romney, romney, romney, romney, romney. >> as governor, when this man was governor, he didn't blame, he didn't duck, he didn't demagog. he got things done. unemployment went doing. the credit rating was improved. household income went up. he reached across the aisle. he balanced the budget without raising taxes. that is the kind of leadership we need in washington. that is not what we have. ladyies and gentleman he has not only succeeded but he has succeeded where others could not. this president is not succeeding. this president cannot run on his record. this president is going to say anything and everything to try and blame, to try and duck, to try and distort, to try and defy, to try and distract, to try and win by default. you know what, ohio? we are not going to let him. we are going to let mitt romney, the next president of the united states, ladies and gentleman, mitt romney. (applause). >> that is quote a guy, isn't it? that is paul ryan. wait, wait, wait, romney-ryan. romney-ryan. romney-ryan. there we go. that is right. thank you senator rand paul for bein
romney, romney, romney, romney, romney, romney, romney, romney. >> as governor, when this man was governor, he didn't blame, he didn't duck, he didn't demagog. he got things done. unemployment went doing. the credit rating was improved. household income went up. he reached across the aisle. he balanced the budget without raising taxes. that is the kind of leadership we need in washington. that is not what we have. ladyies and gentleman he has not only succeeded but he has succeeded where...
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it's romney himself. i think in the debates romney has two big problems that he's got to try to overcome. one is mathematics. he's got to show what loophole he's going to close. the second is authenticity. he's got to show that authentically he's someone that cares about average working people. he hasn't done both. he's losing ground because of both problems. >> when you look at the new gallup poll, be for example, it shows that the majority of americans think that the president is a better candidate for the middle class. 53% for president obama, thinking he's better for the middle class. romney, 43. and then you go to the president, who will the president do more to favor? middle class, wealthy, 66% say middle class. 17% say wealthy. who will mitt romney do more to favor? 35% say middle class, 57% say wealthy. how does romney overcome this overwhelming view that he is going to serve the wealthy and he doesn't serve or care about the middle class? >> i think romney has to be able to be accessible, number
it's romney himself. i think in the debates romney has two big problems that he's got to try to overcome. one is mathematics. he's got to show what loophole he's going to close. the second is authenticity. he's got to show that authentically he's someone that cares about average working people. he hasn't done both. he's losing ground because of both problems. >> when you look at the new gallup poll, be for example, it shows that the majority of americans think that the president is a...
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what exactly do president obama and mitt romney plan to do about health care? we're going to check in with our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. >>> and later, an amazing rescue and, yes, that's right, you're going to see it all play out. ♪ why should saturday night have all the fun? get two times the points on dining in restaurants, with chase sapphire preferred. ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. like a squirrel stashes nuts, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® liquid gels. nothing starts working faster than zyrtec® at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. zyrtec®. love the air. of more than 550 miles you'll inevitably find yourself on a desolate highway in your jeep grand cherokee. and when you do, you
what exactly do president obama and mitt romney plan to do about health care? we're going to check in with our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. >>> and later, an amazing rescue and, yes, that's right, you're going to see it all play out. ♪ why should saturday night have all the fun? get two times the points on dining in restaurants, with chase sapphire preferred. ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner...
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media has gone on to other subjects and back to campaign and david muir asked romney how come you are behind. so mission accomplished even though the truth is victim. >> we know one thing for sure, if it was a republican president there would have been calls for independent council and investigations by congress and suffix gate would have been next to libya. >> somebody talking about benghazi gate already. >> the goff ball is gone. replacement sent packing the real refs back on the job. did the media blitz forced them to end the lunacy on the field? we'll tackle that next on news watch. a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer ] well, you can't beat them. [ giggles ] ohh! you got something huh? whoa... [ male announcer ] humana understands the value of spending time together that's a lot of work getting that one in! let's go see the birdies. [ male announcer ] one on one, sharing what
media has gone on to other subjects and back to campaign and david muir asked romney how come you are behind. so mission accomplished even though the truth is victim. >> we know one thing for sure, if it was a republican president there would have been calls for independent council and investigations by congress and suffix gate would have been next to libya. >> somebody talking about benghazi gate already. >> the goff ball is gone. replacement sent packing the real refs back...
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mitt romney's 47% problem. on sunday, it was paul ryan's turn to try to defend this. >> there are 4% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe they're victims, who believe the government has a responsibility who believe that they're entitled to health care, to food, to housing, you name i. they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> and here is how paul ryan responded. >> in the course of those conversations you've admitted the campaign has made missteps. >> i think first of all 47%, mitt acknowledges that was an inarticulate way that mitt to describe what we're trying to do to create prosperity and upward mobility and reduce dependency by getting people off welfare and back to work. but at the end of the day the choice is really clear and we're giving people a clear choice. >> so, in talking about the romney campaign's missteps, paul ryan missteps by reminding everyone of the 47% misstep
mitt romney's 47% problem. on sunday, it was paul ryan's turn to try to defend this. >> there are 4% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe they're victims, who believe the government has a responsibility who believe that they're entitled to health care, to food, to housing, you name i. they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> and here is how paul ryan...
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. >> romney is a very good debater. he's practiced and practiced and practiced and practiced. >> the moderator and obama are going to come after him. >> romney is actually pretty good on his feet in debates. >> the big questions, can romney reset his campaign with a strong debate? or with early voting under way -- >> president obama. >> -- is it too late for a turnaround? >> four years from his last debate. >> you're wrong. >> will president obama be rusty? or, can he break the race wide open? we'll ask our headliners. new jersey governor chris christie and the president's senior adviser david plouffe. and our powerhouse roundtable. squaring off, former party chairs haley barbour and howard dean. plus, matthew dowd, donna brazile and maggie haberman of politico. >>> hello again. we're heading into the home stretch of this campaign. just 37 days before the final votes, with all eyes on this week's first debate. the candidates are hunkering down in debate camp. our guests are ready to weigh in on where the race stands. wh
. >> romney is a very good debater. he's practiced and practiced and practiced and practiced. >> the moderator and obama are going to come after him. >> romney is actually pretty good on his feet in debates. >> the big questions, can romney reset his campaign with a strong debate? or with early voting under way -- >> president obama. >> -- is it too late for a turnaround? >> four years from his last debate. >> you're wrong. >> will president...
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romney is not quite there yet. but we still have six weeks to go and let's remember, jim acosta, romney endured a bruising months long primary, been campaigning hard for more than a year, perhaps this is the day to ask you, how is he holding up? >> reporter: brooke, i think he's holding up fine. last friday his campaign in addition to putting out the tax return for 2011 put out a letter from his physician declaring the gop nominee to be in excellent health and ready to take on the presidency. so from time to time we heard him sound hoarse. i would say this is nothing more than that. but speaking of raised voices, mitt romney was certainly doing that on the subject of foreign policy here at this event and pueblo, colorado. he went after president obama for some comments that the president made on 60 minutes last night when the president talked about some of the recent unrest in the middle east as being what he called bumps in the road. mitt romney just a few moments ago taking the gloves off really here in pueblo, c
romney is not quite there yet. but we still have six weeks to go and let's remember, jim acosta, romney endured a bruising months long primary, been campaigning hard for more than a year, perhaps this is the day to ask you, how is he holding up? >> reporter: brooke, i think he's holding up fine. last friday his campaign in addition to putting out the tax return for 2011 put out a letter from his physician declaring the gop nominee to be in excellent health and ready to take on the...
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romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel this afternoon. with us from washington, msnbc political analyst karen finney, who is a democratic strategist. also julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and here in new york msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson. professor dyson, mitt romney's wife says she's concerned about his mental health. paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't ha
romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's...
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romney is not far behind. he and the super p.a.c.s supporting him have pumped in nearly 43 million. >> how can people say they want four more years of president obama. we can't afford four more years of president obama. >> reporter: romney has been trying to make the case he'll do a better job with the economy but in all three states the polls shows president obama leading on that issue. >> the path i offer is harder but it leads to a better place. i'm asking you to choose that future. >> reporter: romney does lead in one category, voters in those same states say he would do a better job on the deficit. and both candidates will be appearing in the cleveland and toledo area today and romney will also be making a stop near columbus. >> it's on. thanks. two powerful bombs exploded in the syrian capital of damascus this morning. the explosion detonated minutes apart followed by gunfire. the attack was blamed on terrorists. damascus has been rocked by a series of bombings in recent months as the uprising against pr
romney is not far behind. he and the super p.a.c.s supporting him have pumped in nearly 43 million. >> how can people say they want four more years of president obama. we can't afford four more years of president obama. >> reporter: romney has been trying to make the case he'll do a better job with the economy but in all three states the polls shows president obama leading on that issue. >> the path i offer is harder but it leads to a better place. i'm asking you to choose...
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now, mitt romney has never made that claim. this is coming from a report making all kinds of arguments. and he's made all kinds of a assumptions that the romney campaign has rejected. also puts harvey rosen, you can also generate enough growth to avoid a middle class tax increase. there are a loft credible folks saying something else. it's a fact he's going to raise middle class tax. >> the obama campaign, david plouffe is a chris christie of the campaign saying their campaign is built on a tripod of lies and the president has said sometimes they just make things up. >> last i checked, isn't this called politics? you have lying all the time in politics. it is our responsibility to call folks out on it. on my tv 1 show, i have a segment called the biggest damn lie. >> that's got to be a very tough line to draw. >> some lies are much bigger than the others. you have to call folks out on it. here's the problem i have when it comes to a debate. when you hear lies on a debate, they should be called on out on the spot. when you hear
now, mitt romney has never made that claim. this is coming from a report making all kinds of arguments. and he's made all kinds of a assumptions that the romney campaign has rejected. also puts harvey rosen, you can also generate enough growth to avoid a middle class tax increase. there are a loft credible folks saying something else. it's a fact he's going to raise middle class tax. >> the obama campaign, david plouffe is a chris christie of the campaign saying their campaign is built on...
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david muir is with the romney campaign tonight in ohio. david. >> reporter: diane, good evening to you. as you know no republican has won the white house without ohio. in fact those polls a bit of a reality check for the romney campaign. as for the convention bounce president obama received it certainly was on mitt romney's mind today. before arriving in ohio, mitt romney on stage with a former president, speaking at a forum for bill clinton's global initiative. >> governor, i thank you for being here, the podium is yours. >> reporter: a warm welcome from clinton -- and a wry response from romney. >> if there's one thing we've learned in this election season, by the way, is that a few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. [ applause ] [ laughter ] all i have to do is wait a couple of days for that bounce. [ laughter ] >> reporter: in reality, romney can't afford to wait which is why he's in ohio tonight side by side with his running mate for the first time in more than a month. >> ohio! >> reporter: no longer are they making
david muir is with the romney campaign tonight in ohio. david. >> reporter: diane, good evening to you. as you know no republican has won the white house without ohio. in fact those polls a bit of a reality check for the romney campaign. as for the convention bounce president obama received it certainly was on mitt romney's mind today. before arriving in ohio, mitt romney on stage with a former president, speaking at a forum for bill clinton's global initiative. >> governor, i thank...
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folks within the romney/ryan camp. the way it's unfolding in the polls is not good. there's a report that says that romney is beginning to lose donors who were shifting their money to house and senate races. what's going on here? is this starting to take it its toll on the campaign? >> yes. in many ways what mitt romney's challenge is on wednesday night is to stop the bleeding within his own party and within his own camp. absolutely. behind the scenes, republicans are very worried. some are saying so publically. if mitt romney doesn't reassure them within the first half hour of the debate, they are goners. now you're seeing already, a lot of the independent super pacs who are blessed with their own money are going elsewhere. they are desperately trying to keep a low margin in the senate. the democrats still hold it. republicans have faint hopes of taking it. they are looking at governors races, state legislatures, they are look at any place to protect themselves from what, at this minute, looks like a fairly comfortabl
folks within the romney/ryan camp. the way it's unfolding in the polls is not good. there's a report that says that romney is beginning to lose donors who were shifting their money to house and senate races. what's going on here? is this starting to take it its toll on the campaign? >> yes. in many ways what mitt romney's challenge is on wednesday night is to stop the bleeding within his own party and within his own camp. absolutely. behind the scenes, republicans are very worried. some...
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there's not a universal consensus romney has to be the clear winner. laying the bench mark it's the debate falls into the media means of romney has to perform if he doesn't it's an excuse of another round in my mind of disgustingly biassed pieces of mitt romney. i believe phil is right when bara barack obama was challenged in the interview last week by jorge he was challenged really hard. he is uncomfortable when he is confronted with facts and simply worded questions. if mitt romney remind people we have 11.7 unemployment not 8.1 america's best days cannot be behind her they have to be in front of her i think he wins by not having a moment but having a moment of real leadership and real maturity. >> in that first debate wednesday october 3rd fox news channel coverage starts at precisely at 8:55 p.m. with meg megan kelly and bret baier. >> not a minute later than that. 8:55. >> before you leave your house let's get the first degree weather update. >> we have a lot of heavy ooifrn the weekend. todayed rain is over tennessee and the carolinas already sta
there's not a universal consensus romney has to be the clear winner. laying the bench mark it's the debate falls into the media means of romney has to perform if he doesn't it's an excuse of another round in my mind of disgustingly biassed pieces of mitt romney. i believe phil is right when bara barack obama was challenged in the interview last week by jorge he was challenged really hard. he is uncomfortable when he is confronted with facts and simply worded questions. if mitt romney remind...
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welcome, daughter. [ romney ] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. . >>> tonight on "world news." race against time. mitt romney gets the word ease in a slide in battleground states. what does he do today to turn it around and why is he showing up with bill clinton? >>> game over. was this the worst call ever? >> two of the worst calls at the end of a football game i can remember. >> players, fans up in arms. who are these replacement referees. find out what we learned today. >>> real money. are you losing tens of thousand of dollars. is the bank telling you what your home is really worth? how to get that money back. >>> and, look, no hands? has the jettison's car finally arrived? an announcement today, we'll soon be sharing the road with cars that drive themselves. >> go ahead much. >>> good evening. tonight we begin with the clock ticking and a candidate looking for a big move. 42 days to go until "your voice, your vote." and governor mitt romney shows him in a slide in two absolutely battleground states, ohio and florida. what is happening and how will he turn it around. davi
welcome, daughter. [ romney ] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. . >>> tonight on "world news." race against time. mitt romney gets the word ease in a slide in battleground states. what does he do today to turn it around and why is he showing up with bill clinton? >>> game over. was this the worst call ever? >> two of the worst calls at the end of a football game i can remember. >> players, fans up in arms. who are these replacement referees....
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that was not mitt romney at his best. overall, the thing about president obama is that his skill is in oratory. he's great at sort of exhorting crowds and inspiring people who already agree with him but throughout his presidency and this has been true in interviews, true in press conferences, true in his speeches, he's struggled with the art of persuasion, the art that bill clinton obviously mastered so well. so there, i think there is a weakness for him in the debate, that he has a sort of, he can stumble too, not in the same way that romney can, but he can sort of get tangled up in his slightly professorial style and lose the plot, if you will. >> important as this may be to the romney fortunes, it's a day we discover the romney campaign is planning to unleash, this is their leaking, robust spending in the final five weeks of the campaign. quotes from a republican source, we will spend as much in paid advertising, direct mail and field operations in the next five weeks as we have spent since becoming the presumptive nom
that was not mitt romney at his best. overall, the thing about president obama is that his skill is in oratory. he's great at sort of exhorting crowds and inspiring people who already agree with him but throughout his presidency and this has been true in interviews, true in press conferences, true in his speeches, he's struggled with the art of persuasion, the art that bill clinton obviously mastered so well. so there, i think there is a weakness for him in the debate, that he has a sort of, he...